R2D34ever2
Inscrit en Dec 2007

347 message(s)
18 February 2019
The last few weeks I have been looking at the times that the shows are supposed to be playing because when I was playing all the clips from a new show it was finished earlier as expected.
Today I added up the times from the latest duo card..
It is should be 41 minutes ..
I added all the cliptimes up and the final score was 36,183333.
Are there typo's in the clip list or is something else going a bit wrong/off ?
BTW .. I checked this time twice to be very sure...
Do I have to change something in the settings or is it something else..
zzmaskers
Inscrit en Mar 2011

607 message(s)
18 February 2019
@R2D34ever2 The difference are the Transition clips.
R2D34ever2
Inscrit en Dec 2007

347 message(s)
18 February 2019
😳😳 oow no .. never thought about the in/out clips and so..
feeling kinda dumb here now.... 😭😰
R2D34ever2
Inscrit en Dec 2007

347 message(s)
18 February 2019
ermmm.. Can one of the Moderators please remove my post ??
HansSachs
Inscrit en Mar 2016

949 message(s)
18 February 2019 (edited)
In this case, it's really possible and true transition clips to have a total duration of even 5 minutes? And, in other cases, even much more? I still suspect that many show time indications are wrong.
In any case, I DON'T am happy at all about this indication system. Being the transition clips not directly playable by us, and being they even invisible when a card is played in full size or in fullscreen mode, show duration should in my opinion indicate just the total timing of ordinary clips, without adding the transition ones.
zzmaskers
Inscrit en Mar 2011

607 message(s)
18 February 2019
@HansSachs
Being the transition clips not directly playable by us, and being they even invisible when a card is played in full size or in fullscreen mode, show duration should in my opinion indicate just the total timing of ordinary clips, without adding the transition ones.
I totally agree with this.


@Team Make it possible for us buyers/payers of the Transition clips to play them seperately in small size, in full size and fullscreen mode. Now I don't have any command on them.
Dorsai6
Inscrit en Apr 2013

1023 message(s)
18 February 2019
Totem stores the total number of frames in a card in the XML file for that card with a tag of "<duration>". The software calculates the card's play time assuming a frame rate of 25 fps which is correct for the older cards, but the e&f series cards are supposed to have a frame rate of 30 fps.

The duration for card f0437 is 61896. At 25 fps that would be 41,264 minutes. At 30 fps that would be 34,386666. As you said, the total of the clip times is 2171 seconds or 36,18333 min. This works out to be 28,5 fps. There are no transition clips in this f series card.


By the way, you can make a playlist with transition clips that will ***** those clips to play. You have to do it manually or you can use my Playlist Generator. Most, but not all transition clips can be commanded with a playlist.
Dorsai6
Inscrit en Apr 2013

1023 message(s)
17 March 2019
I've just discovered the opposite problem. As I said about a month ago the total number of frames for a card is stored in it's XML file as <duration>. Knowing the frame rate of a card should let us calculate its duration. Till now I've assumed that all "a" series cards had a frame rate of 25 fps. I've just discovered that quite a number of "a" series cards seem to have a frame rate of 30 fps.

For example card a0723 shows a playtime of 55 minutes and the total of its clip times is 55.63 min. That's great, but its duration is 99101 which at 30 fps is 55.056 min. It would appear that this old card had a frame rate of 30 rather than 25 and the software uses the correct frame rate to calculate total play time. Just the opposite of the case that started this tread!

The following 720p cards also seem to have a 30 fps frame rate:

a0717
a0745
a0705
a0720
a0725
a0726
a1089
a0722
a0704
a0724
a0723
c0058
c0034
c0012

What's going on here?

In my Playlist Generator I calculate a card's play time from the XML duration assuming a frame rate of 25 fps for a, b, c, and d cards and 30 fps for e and f. That is clearly not always correct.

PS. Card e0910 is an example of the original problem. The UI shows a play time of 56 min, but 30 fps computes to 46.4 min while the playable clips add to 47 min and the transition clips total about 1 min.

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